POLL 2019 - Change "Injury Setting" Immediately

[David - Cleveland]

Simple question.

Injury proneness will remain HIDDEN because of an earlier poll (and I am a fan of not revealing that) to still provide some challenge.

And I will go out on a limb and reserve the right to bump this right back to NORMAL should OOTP19 make significant improvements to the injury setting.

I'm also going to add my Slack post announcing this here, for the sake of having it in black and white:

This is the #1 discussion in most online leagues.

As I have said many times, in every league I am in (and I'm just saying, not fanning flames) I am a huge believer in using as much of the "game" as possible, from trading to retaining salary, to owner goals, to playoff rosters, to financials, to pretty well everything (except contract negotiations, which still need some help in an online league , but they are getting better). I also firmly believe that the only way the online game gets better is if online leagues USE the GAME as coded. Which is why I really hate to turn anything off (or consider lowering something like injuries). My fear is that it will never get put back to normal, even if the game vastly improves!

That said I do think 18 has gone a little over the top on injuries and even normal is a bit much at this time (even with tweaking). There is no good answer to this, because injuries have already happened. Some teams are inevitably going to be hit harder than others. So many factors weigh into injuries - AGE, PRONENESS, PREVIOUS INJURIES, and the saimple fact front-line talent plays far more often than scrubs, so you feel the injuries much more each time! And I certainly do want anyone to  quit either because of injuries or because of not adjusting the injury setting, OR because the results of a poll do not go their way, so I hate to suggest this, BUT WILL in the interest of the league.

My thought... *Emergency POLL* to decide whether to drop the injury setting to LOW (next setting down). As Fin mentioned (and I endorse this setting) with the "Injury Proneness" hidden, it might be the prudent thing to do IF the majority agree!I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE 30 VOTES!

[johnw- ATL]

My comment on this. Lowering the injury ratings makes the game more fun. That's what we are here for. Playing a game. Realism and fun, in this case, don't mix.

[ablroyals]

I voted to keep it the same.  I'd much rather have the injury ratings shown than to drop it.

[aaron_commissioner]

As a "by the book" kind of person and someone who loves challenges, I would typically vote no to this. However, I think the GM interactions are what makes online OOTP special, so I will vote YES. There is nothing worse than something frustrating happening when something could have been done to help it.

Winning is fun, but not everyone gets to win. There will undoubtedly be people who are going to be disappointed with the 2019 season. But if we do all that we can to keep a fair and positive game, hopefully we can mitigate those frustrations.

Let's all choose to have fun, win or lose.

[samtigers]

I would rather GM's find enjoyment even if it isn't quite "realistic". Injuries seem quite high so far - I voted for LOW.

[Deleted]

I voted to lower the injury setting. I do like the "fog" of not showing the player injury proneness, and i like how OOTP manages the dtd injury piece.

But the amount of "Player injured for X months" has now become unrealistic in my view (2 online leagues of data help me arrive to that conclusion) and I am all in favour of bumping the setting down to low.

I would also suggest we keep an eye on this for the upcoming season and re-assess at the end of the year. We can use the past two seasons of data to help us provide a baseline for context.

I want a blend of fun/challenge and right now it isn't very fun for alot of teams!

Also of note. I'm not one of the teams that has had alot of injuries that have impacted my team. BUT, it isn't only about me which is why i voted the way i did. To me, it has to be a collective mindset when making decisions, because these decisions affect all of us, not just a few teams.

[Derek _ Red Sox]

I came across this, for the entire month of April this year, MLB had 13 players on the 60-day DL while The ABL has 36 players who would qualify for the 60-day DL.

41 players on the 10-day DL, 5 on the 7-day DL with concussions.

And those MLB numbers are for the ENTIRE month of April. We aren’t even in April yet in-game in the ABL.

NOTE: There are minor leaguers as well on the injured list but that’s not included in this discussion as this only compares MLB

[kendalld00redsox]

Voted..

[GM_Orioles]

voted

[David - Cleveland]

21 Votes
85+% in favour

Setting to LOW.

Thank you!

CLOSED the poll, but will leave the thread open for a few days if anyone cares to comment here instead of Slack.